Monday, July 26, 2004

Musharraf's statement

Our dear Musharaf told Intel wallas that: "Pakistan has a fast-growing market for computer and other information technology related products, saying economic measures and policies have resulted in an investment-friendly environment in the country." No word on piracy there.

5 comments:

Kamran said...

Salman i totally agree with you. No word on piracy. I saw a program on TV some time ago where Dr. Atta-Ur-Rehman was present answering the audience's questions. 3 people asked questions one by one. Mr. Atta answered two of those questions but did not answer the one which was:

"Sir, piracy is so common in Pakistan. Why the government is not doing anything about it?"

It is such a shame that our leaders dont know the ground reality. Perhaps they probably know it and are trying to hide it. But how the hell can they think of hiding this thing?

I can proudly say that I use 100% legal software even if I am a student. I think Spider Mag should publish articles on piracy and criticise constructively to eliminate the evils of piracy from Pakistan.

Some people say that if piracy ends in Pakistan, how will we learn new technologies and software which are so expensive for Pakistanis? In my opinion, its same as asking "How would i live if i dont steal the bread to eat?"

Just to give you an example, Alias (www.alias.com), the company that owns the 'Maya' Animation software started its operations more than a decade ago. At that time, they wanted a solid animation software with features not available at that time. So they decided to create Maya (with the name of 'Power Animator' if i m not wrong) and invested money and they wrote 300,000 lines of C language code to come up with the first version of their software. And you can see now where they are! Maya is the primary tool for graphics and visual effects production in most high-end animation houses in the world.

What I want to prove here is that Alias didnt wait for any other (Pakistani) software company to produce such a quality animation tool and use it later through illegal means (i.e. adopting piracy). West is ahead because they have done the hard work for whatever they have done.

Success never comes in short cuts and most pakistanis dont realize this fact. And fortunately, the world is much more easier now than it was a few years ago. Open Source software are a great opportunity for countries like Pakistan to grow in the tech world.

So I would like the govt. of Pakistan to kill piracy of software, books and movies and make Pakistan a 'land of pure' in reality. And implement Linux based technologies which are better than whats thought about them in Pakistan.

A lot! yes lot more can be written about this topic but i guess i have still written too much to read.

Zunaira said...

You are able to afford legal software? Please quote your source, the software you bought and the price you bought it at. It would be a good example for some of our readers.

I honestly cannot see students purchasing any software over 500 Rs. So I disagree with you on its affordability.

I support Open Source BUT you do not have any dedicated development for freeware or linux-based software in Pakistan, targeting the average consumer. There's so much on the Net already and Spider is featuring it regularly, but how many people bother to download?

Spider has run several articles on piracy, covering all sides of the debate and will continue to do so.

Corporations MUST price their product according to the market. That is unavoidable if they want people to use registered software. I use a registered copy of XP because it came with my notebook. Would I go out and purchase it from MS? Sure. Are they pricing it according to my budget?

Kamran said...

I bought Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition from International Office Products Karachi for Rs. 5500.

you said: "I honestly cannot see students purchasing any software over 500 Rs. So I disagree with you on its affordability."

Can you answer this question: Why do we purchase a processor? even if its amongst the most expensive parts of the computer. Because a 'processor' is a must to run a computer. So just like that: Operating System is a must to operate the computer.

But that doesnt mean that you should steal someone's processor if you can not afford it. Infact you never will steal thinking it is bad or thinking you'll get caught.

Software is similar case but no one here gets caught for stealing it. And people here are cruel enough to ignore the 'humanity' and 'responsibility' thought for the hard working 'software companies'. But i respect their hard work. My example of Alias above in a nutshell means 'if u cant afford it, make ur own! and if u r dumb enuf to make ur own, then find an alternative'

The way you are talking resembles that if i want to buy a mercedes benz and i cannot afford it, i am willing to steal it? No! i will actually look for an alternative like a Suzuki FX maybe :)

When you get Windows XP, you get everything to run a personal computer. yes everything! u even get Windows Movie Maker 2 which is quite powerful!

And i do web design/development as a part time work. I am a freelancer basically.

I use OpenOffice when i need to do advanced word processing and i use WordPad for simple things.

I use GIMP (www.gimp.org) for graphics design. Its a highly underestimated software. Version 2 is awesome and highly stable.

I use Blender 3D (www.blender3d.org) for 3d graphics production. I use Yafray (www.yafray.org) for high quality rendering.

I use HAPEdit (http://hapedit.free.fr) for Web Design and Development coding.

I handcode XHTML, CSS and JavaScript for my projects.

I use Apache, PHP and MySQL for server side development which are of course free!

I must tell you that I earn good money even if i dont have those photoshops and flashs wid me.

You said "I support Open Source BUT you do not have any dedicated development for freeware or linux-based software in Pakistan, targeting the average consumer."

Believe me, linux these days is so much easier than you think. Average consumer (complete newbie) can easily do things like video, mp3, chat, browse the web, email (like Outlook), office productivity on a linux PC. You can do many other things if u r a little techy.

But still, if u can buy a processor for thousands of rupees, u shud put an extra 5500 for Windows too!

a processor that costs Rs. 6000 here in PK costs 100 US$ in the USA. So will you demand the hardware manufacturers to sell their hardware for Rupees 100 or 500 in Pakistan otherwise we'll steal it? No, you won't!

So MS Windows is not expensive. Infact its almost half the price of what it wud be originally (around 200$ if i m not wrong)

you said "but how many people bother to download?"..

That really cant be called a reason. People will download if they dont have any other option (such as those stupid Rs.25 CDs)

you said "Are they pricing it according to my budget?"

Please see the car example above for the answer.

Moiz Khan said...

well codebox i would not agree in full with you here. when you say that buying windows xp is similar to buying a processor thats not the case. When you shop for something as a consumer you look for best buy dont you. and when you buy a processor you go for the one which suites your requirements and your purse. right. similalry for anyone to buy windows 5500 in pakistan is not a healthy deal. What do you expect froma nation that earns 400 dollars per capita.
I would some blame on the multinationals as well. they over price their products. ppl cant afford them.
and then again piracy is not hindering th eprogress of IT in Paistan. i would say it is helping us further it in a way by providing access in every home and to every genius brain in the country who wants to put in the input.
Tell me would you like it that a competent brain is deprived of all the technology just because he cant afford to buy it.
its like asking someone to not eat coz he is black in colour. isnt it.

Kamran said...

Hi. You said:

"When you shop for something as a consumer you look for best buy dont you. and when you buy a processor you go for the one which suites your requirements and your purse. right. similalry for anyone to buy windows 5500 in pakistan is not a healthy deal."

I agree with you. But 'best buy' doesnt mean that you should buy it via illegal channels. I put a lot of energy in my previous looooooong posts :) in which i explained why we should invest Rs. 5500 in Windows OS.

You futher said:
"i would say it is helping us further it in a way by providing access in every home and to every genius brain in the country who wants to put in the input.
Tell me would you like it that a competent brain is deprived of all the technology just because he cant afford to buy it."

Yar common.. I gave an example of the company 'Alias' (www.alias.com) above and after reading it you will know that stealing a technology is not healthy at all. You can create your own software. To be truly worldclass, you'll have to be honest. I m telling this more out of facts than spirituality. I repeat: if you cant afford a software, create your own! but dont steal it. Just tell me, If you wrote a magnificent piece of software and I steal it and use it and sell it for my profit, wont it hurt you? I can easily claim that I am using your technology because I am a genius and i dont want to be deprived from technology. But think again, am i really a genius? or a dumbo? Just have a look at the leading IT industry countries in the world, you'll notice that they are pioneers in one field or the other not the followers.

You siad:
"its like asking someone to not eat coz he is black in colour. isnt it"

oh well, not at all! no black/white thing here :) You can redo your statement like this:

"its like asking someone to not eat (a particular thing) coz he cant afford it. isnt it"

And yes, i agree with the redone statement! See me for example, few of my friends have many trips to Nandos, Pizza Hut and Al-Habib, but i dont go with them because i cannot afford too much of such trips. So i just digest the cool home food to satisfy my hunger. The basic idea here is: "if u cant afford something, find an alternative!" Linux sounds like a possible alternative to me. But if linux bites you, come up with your own stuff, your own operating system, write your own like Microsoft did many years ago. i know you must be calling me a wierdo maybe but thats a fact: You should not steal something! Stealing is a sin and a crime!

I was hoping Zunaira to reply but she didnt (yet). But anyways i hope you got the idea ;) atleast these are my views and i think i m right. You can and cannot agree with me at all! Thanx for reading.